Here’s what I (James Martin) said about this to my friends at Deep Transformation Network.:
This conversation is very long. Very.
Daniel Schmachtenberger: "Artificial Intelligence and The Superorganism" | The Great Simplification
It's very challenging to listen to and understand -- very.
Very few people in DTN (or The R-Word) are likely to listen to all of this and understand half of it.
There are likely to be some significant problems with the information presented.
But I highly recommend that those with the time and patience for it will listen to it all.
I listened to it and also the AI Dilemma presentation by Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin and admit I needed to do it in installments.
I recommended watching the AI Dilemma presentation to some friends etc and some watched it BUT I would say that those that came away with the impression of how serious the situation is was irrelevant if they watched it or not. That is, unless people already have some internal questions about the fundamental risks that our mainstream relationship to technology I don't believe it won't be able to "wake up" people.
So potentially the videos value are more for people like us, to help give us the motivation and the facts for the way we present a narrative to others about the systemic risks of AI.
PS not sure you have seen Yuval Noah Harari's recent talk on AI risks. He speaks about how culture driven by AI sets the precedent that human driven culture becomes obsolete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWiM-LuRe6w
This helped me feel confident when in a group activity at work (where we were asked to explain our company values in a short presentation) that when somebody suggested to use AI instead to come up with the response (to which many people were nodding in agreement) that I could say "No, that is the anti-thesis of group work. By letting AI act as an oracle and determine our own values for us, we are outsourcing something very core"
Not sure I was popular as a result but that is just an example of how where these videos can inspire me in more day-to-day activities for helping other's see the issues but in a more local context
I started listening but I feel as I listen to Daniel my senses bristle at his inherent position. I love the guy but his centering of American Internet Culture as The World does not bare out under the withering reality of the physical world. The tendency of both Nate and Daniel (also love Nate) toward these big centralised narratives is at first exciting then increasingly self fulfilling.
I am a maker, moving on to the land. My thinking is embodied in materials and processes. The literary and mathematical models beloved of these guys is not my register, idiom or language. When I hear them I'm not hearing the word meaning but the layering and construction, as a sculptor, I know this is not the world. The idea that machines can make art is laughable, and so on and so on. They will say what machines make is art (which what the Luddites saw and fought with their lives). If you really make things you will know what art is, you will sense its embodied life.