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Mary Wildfire's avatar

I agree entirely--the one place I disagree with Nate is his assumption that humans and all animals are automatons with no real choice but to go for the biggest energy package they can find. I also agree with you that for humans to proactively work to reduce our energy use and move toward the best possible path to transition of our systems to sustainable ones--to a degree that makes a difference-IN THE CURRENT POLITICAL CONTEXT--is highly unlikely.

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James R. Martin's avatar

At about the 20 minute mark here -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=undp6sgCIX4 -- Nate mentions a tweet he read from a friend, who said basically that individuals can make choices, but species cannot / do not. I wanted to note that down here so I can come back later and comment upon that idea.

The video is from this podcast episode: Joe Tainter: “Surplus, Complexity, and Simplification” | The Great Simplification #27

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