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You are right. But, bear in mind that the size of the energy-based economy is shrinking so "the growth-based and growth-dependent capitalist industrial economy" will also be shrinking. In perpetual degrowth. And capitalism cannot exist without growth, so it will wither away.

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Totally agree. But the majority of participants, including Jeremy Lent, do not understand that the economy is "naturally" shrinking - so they are wasting valuable time arguing that degrowth is needed. Time which would be better spent focused on getting the degrowth which is occurring directed towards ecological ends.

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