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Andy Wistreich's avatar

"Not everyone is coming to the future

Not everyone is coming from the past

Not everyone can come into the future

Not everyone that's here is gonna last"

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Sadly, collapse is extremely likely, indeed, already underway. Not all is lost, because the work of constructing a future ecological civilisation is also underway. It's going to be a very challenging few decades. Many are already perishing, and many more will die in future. We should save as much life as possible, but also be realistic about what is happening, and act accordingly. As James Lovelock said in The Revenge of Gaia, we should get rid of all that is wrong in the current civilisation and preserve all that is good, to help those humans of the future who will construct the new society.

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Paul Heft's avatar

James, you are garnering plenty of comments not only here but also at resilience.org. Congratulations! It's great to see thoughtful discussions.

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